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Existe la competencia perfecta?

Notapor Neo Dx el Sab May 08, 2004 8:48 pm

Desde ke David Ricardo escribio sobre la mano invisible del mercado , la relacion entre oferta y demanda , elasticidad, etc, rios de tinta han pasado tratando de confirmar o tirar abajo esta teoria, esta construccion hipotetica.
Pero yo sigo con la duda. Existe realmente? Existio alguna vez? porke si o porke no?
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Notapor potto el Mié Jun 01, 2005 11:32 pm

si mal no entendí, competencia perfecta es, muchos oferentes y demandantes y libre entradas de ellos, nadie puede inferir sobre el precio, el producto es homogéneo, y tiene que haber transparencia sobre el producto (en precio, calidad, etc.)… bueno, yo creo que en algún momento de la historia existió, ahora emmm... la competencia es imperfecta, sin ir mucho mas lejos y sin hacer un estudio muy profundo (ni los conocimientos ni la cabeza me da) los grandes capitales, las grandes empresas manejan el precio (monopolio, oligopolio, etc etc), y ya al no cumplirse uno de los ítems antes mencionados teóricamente la competencia perfecta desaparece. A ver… muchos productores de soja venden sus granos a distintas cooperativas, el producto seria homogéneo, habría muchos demandantes y muchos oferentes, libre entrada, libre salida, y creo que el precio variaría dependiendo la oferta y la demanda (obviamente teniendo en cuenta el precio internacional), creo, si no me equivoco en mi razonamiento que ahí abría competencia perfecta. Y si me equivoco bueee, pido perdon… no entendí muy bien el concepto.
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Notapor G3 el Jue Jun 02, 2005 12:20 am

Uhm.. es imposible que haya -literalmente- una competencia perfecta... Básicamente porque, como sabemos, en una "competencia" hay ganadores y perdedores; es una "pelea" económica en este caso. Para "competir a ganar" hay que ser "mejor" que el otro: tener mejor precio y/o calidad. Más allá de que haya o no demanda de diferentes targets, porque la oferta, siempre va a haber aunque sea en mayor o menor escala,

Para concluir, lo de "perfecto" para mí, no existe... si no, que alguien me de un ejemplo práctico. Salvo, que esto se refiera desde el punto de vista de la libertad de elección/compra del usuario/consumidor...


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potto escribió:A ver… muchos productores de soja venden sus granos a distintas cooperativas, el producto seria homogéneo, habría muchos demandantes y muchos oferentes, libre entrada, libre salida, y creo que el precio variaría dependiendo la oferta y la demanda (obviamente teniendo en cuenta el precio internacional), creo, si no me equivoco en mi razonamiento que ahí abría competencia perfecta. Y si me equivoco bueee, pido perdon… no entendí muy bien el concepto.


Creo que ese ejemplo de la Soja, potto, no se si es uno bueno... creo que es algo mas bien "standarizado". Como todo, la soja (supongo, desde mi ignorancia) debe tener diferentes calidades dependiendo del área de cultivo, fertilizantes, maquinarias, tiempo de cultivo, etc... y lo del precio internacional depende de la producción mundial (tambien está el tema de plagas y todo eso). Hace poco hubo mucho revuelo por una plaga en Brasil. (Gracias InfoCampo! 8) ) jejejeje

Si tenes un ejemplo mejor aunque no sea actual, me gustaria verlo. Porque no me entra la idea :?

Ah otra cosa, esto es "Competencia Perfecta"? o "Competencia Leal"? ya me estoy confundiendo un poco con esto.. ahora que me puse en filósofo jeje.


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Notapor potto el Vie Jun 03, 2005 2:24 pm

es competencia perfecta... y las caracteristicas son las que escribi antes... mira, lo del ejemplo de la soja puede que le aya pifiado, mi profe de economia nos dio un ejemplo que je, ahora no me acuerdo pero creo que taba referida al sector primario, asique bueno, si me acuerdo le voy a pegar una leida a los apuntes y despues escribo algo mas.
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Notapor potto el Vie Jun 03, 2005 2:47 pm

La competencia perfecta.

La competencia perfecta es una representación idealizada de los mercados de bienes y de servicios en la que la interacción recíproca de la oferta y la demanda determina el precio.

Un mercado de competencia perfecta es aquel en el que existe muchos compradores y muchos vendedores, de forma que ningún comprador o vendedor individual ejerce influencia decisiva sobre el precio.

Para que esto ocurra, debe cumplirse:

Existencia de un elevado número de oferentes y demandantes. La decisión individual de cada uno de ellos ejercerá escasa influencia sobre el mercado global.


Homogeneidad del producto. No existen diferencias entre los productos que venden los oferentes.


Transparencia del mercado. Todo los participantes tienen pleno conocimiento de las condiciones generales en que opera el mercado.


Libertad de entrada y salida de empresas. Todas las empresas, cuando lo deseen, podrán entrar y salir del mercado.

La esencia de la competencia perfecta no está referida tanto a la rivalidad como a la dispersión de la capacidad de control que los agentes económicos pueden ejercer sobre la marca del mercado.

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creo que la soja es homogeneo, el productor junta la soja de sus distintos lotes (con sus respectivos rendimientos, etc) lo mete en un camion y lo vende, ahi lo unico que hay es soja, es homogeneo, o no?. en cambio, si uno hace soja organica en un lote y en otro hace siembra directa, seguramente ahi no hay homogeneidad, pero bueno, supongamos que en una zona determinada todos hacen directa (que es lo usual) el producto va a ser homogeneo, dentro del camion es homogeneo.
el precio internacional depende de la produccion mundial, eso ta clarisimo, pero, hablando del mercado interno, ningun productor puede por si solo modificar el precio, solo puede variar sus cantidades ofrecidas, por otro lado, desde el momento en que por ejemplo, eeuu maneja el precio ya hay monopolio y esto no se cumple, por eso, quise referirme al mercado interno dejando como constante el mercado externo. je. bueno, no se si logro explicarme, despues cuando lea algo mas sigo... je.
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Notapor potto el Mar Jun 07, 2005 10:18 pm

estube leyendo y encontre un cuadrito en mi carpeta, en éste lo divide en demanda y oferta. en el ejemplo que yo escribi de la soja, mi profe dice que
*en ´´oferentes´´ (produtores): la competencia es perfecta.
*en ´´demandantes´´ (ejemplo: cooperativas): la competencia es imperfecta, ´´oligopsonio´´.
asique bueno, creo que cuando hablamos de competencia perfecta hay que separar la parde demandante y los oferentes y analizarla por separado o algo asi. ahora, competencia perfecta de ambas partes no se... me mantengo al margen con eso, je, si alguien lo sabe que me lo diga porque ahora yo tambien toy con la duda... saludos
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Notapor Ogro el Mar Ago 29, 2006 8:00 pm

Tal como se mencinó anteriormente: La competencia perfecta es una representación "idealizada" de los mercados de bienes y de servicios en la que la interacción recíproca de la oferta y la demanda determina el precio.
Algunos autores modernos llegan a considerar a la competencia perfecta como la situación de excepción, y a las condiciones monopolísticas o de competencia imperfecta como la norma (véase HYDE, Francia E., A new prospect of Economics, Liverpool Univ. Press, 1959).
Ortega y Gaset (en 1914) escribía: "Yo soy yo y mi circunstancia, y si no la salvo a ella, no me salvo yo y este sector de la realidad circunstante forma la otra mitad de mi persona: sólo a través de él puedo integrarme y ser plenamente yo mismo".
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